Wednesday, 12 November 2014

The Mysterious Albert Ceileur, Alphonse Leiningen, Count Albert Leiningen Victorian Photographer

For my birthday last month my husband bought me a collectors database, so that I could at last start to catalogue all my CDV's Cabinet cards, Postcard photos and the rest I hope in time.
 I am trying to do a little every day, but sometimes I can be swayed to jump to something else!
At the beginning of last week I was filling in details of a CDV and looking close to see if there was any small writing I had missed, when I discovered a photographer that I hadn't come across before and he has taken up last week with research, seems he led quite an eventful life, along with family tradgedies, here is what I found...................

A.Ceileur. Photo Lithographer, 1 and 2 Shawbury Villas, Camden Road.
A man of mystery ! and even after spending many hours searching for all and any information about him..he still remains a mystery..I would love to know what happened to him !!.

1821-1827.. Birth dates in Hungary (1861 C) or maybe Austria (1871 C)
Albert's wife Sarah Ann/e
1834.. Birth date for Sarah Ann(e) Greenwood in Norwich, Norfolk (Wife) 
Below on the 1851 census is the most likely family for Sarah, his wife, born Norwich, connection to Liverpool, where their first daughter was born, and also Sarah's father here is an Artist, School Master. 
In 1861 this Greenwood family are living in  St Pancras, both parents with E/Amelia 18 and Sydney 11, also the Polish refugee(Captain) has gone with them.
Then in 1871 the parents are living in South Hackney with son William 26 and the Polish refugee now absent, maybe died since last census.
In October of 1871 a death record for James (father) in Hackney, and also earlier in 1871 (July) a possible death record for Sidney, one of their sons.
No trace in the 1881 census but have found possible record of mother Mary Ann in 1891 census a Pauper and a  widow, sadly living in Hackney Union Workhouse.
Also have found a death for a Mary Ann Greenwood in Hackney at the beginning of 1896.

Mr Ceileur
His various first names are Alphonse, Albert, Edward and Victor.
Surnames Leiningen, Leinintgen, Leihinge, Ceileur, Ceilleur and all the many variations of those names, lots beginning with S .. eg Sellor, Seelleur, Salor.. an impossible task to trace them all without sending for lots of certificates !
1854..The most likely marriage occurred on 7th August 1854 (banns called in July 1854) between Albert Vincent Leiningen age 33 and Sarah Ann Greenwood age 22, at St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney. Both living at 1 Stepney Square.
1854..Birth of Albert Vincent Leiningen in Stepney
1855..Birth of Ida Ceileur Jan Q in Liverpool
1858..Birth of Albertine Ceileur Leiningen April Q in Pancras, London
1859/1860 In America..Albert Ceileur/Celiner listed as a daguerreian and photographer, 559 Broadway, New York City, N.Y United States of America. And also while here he wrote a series of articles for Humphrey's Journal of Photography.
Also this record of him.. "Past and present of the United States. Mammoth photograph from original painting. Drawn by Prof. L. Lutby, of Switzerland, for James Meyer, Jr., of New York, photographed by A. Ceileur, of New York, coloured by E. L. Glew, New York, only copy of original. Framed and presented by the late Major W. V, M. Sherman"

1860..Birth of Albert Francis Leiningen (Leihinge) last Q. in Pancras, London

1861 census for Albert Ceileur and family

1861..Census..See above..Studios and living at 1 Shawbury Villas, Camden Road, St Pancras, London
Seems to have been here till about 1871, operating at both 1 and 2 Shawbury Villas...
1861..Death of Albert Francis Leiningen July Q in Pancras, London
1861..Death of Ida Ceileur Leiningen July Q in Pancras, London
1862..Birth of Ida Linda Clotilde Ceileur Leiningen Apr Q in Pancras, London (Louisa)
1862..Studio secretary James Philip
1862..25th November.Court reported by
(1) the Evening Standard on the 28th Nov  "The Reading Girl in Chancery, on Tuesday (25th Nov) Sir Hugh Cairns obtained a decree in the case of The London Stereoscopic and Photographic Company V Ceileur, otherwise known as Count Albert Leiningen. 
In order to restrain the latter from copying 'The Reading Girl' 'Egema' and various other works produced by the company. 
This is the first case under the new act of Victoria in which registered photographs have been protected from piracy."
(2) Reported by Photographic News "Interestingly, in November 1862 the
London Stereoscopic Company secured an injunction to prevent a former employee
selling unauthorised copies of photographs of the International Exhibition, which
injunction also extended to any photographs that might thereafter be registered
by the Company; London Stereoscopic Company v. Ceileur, (1862)
(3) This report from PhotoLondon website.. "Albert, Count Leiningen, who worked under the name of Albert Ceileur and claimed to be Queen Victoria's cousin...The 'Photographic News' described Mr Ceileur as an old photographer and a skillful one, who had entered the employ of 'The London Stereoscopic Company' on an 'unusually handsome salary' The company had obtained exclusive rights to produce views of the 1862 International Exhibition and expected to make considerable profits from the images, however cheap pirate copies soon flooded the market.
It emerged that Count Leiningen or Mr Ceileur was the source of these pirated pictures! He had copied the originals and was running off large numbers for both export and domestic sale, asking 5s per dozen less than he was supposed to be getting in as the official representative of the company.
It was said that he exported nearly a quarter of a million copies. To this end he had set up a large Photographic establishment employing 'sixty hands.'
At this time it was maybe the largest photo business in Britain. Another report suggests that a Photographer claiming relationship with royal blood was bound over and had to pay heavy damages and costs for pirating carte portraits."
1871..Census..See below..

1871 Census Albert Edward Ceileur and family

1871..A Partnership dissolved..

for the company.........Le Roi, Claude & Co

Later in 1871

William Row Frost seems to have continued the business at these premises until about 1875, then I have found records of him living and working in Dunedin, New Zealand from 1881..He died there in 1911.

A Royal Connection?
I have tried to follow up on Alberts claim in court to have been related to Queen Victoria..yes there were 'Leiningen' relatives of our Royal family and even children born at Osborne House on the Isle of Wight at around the same time as some of Albert's children, but I have found no-one of his name/s among them.
So it seems Albert was on a flight of fancy in more ways than one ! 
Queen Victoria's connection to Leiningen family...
Queen Victoria's mother Princess Victoria of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld married on 21 December 1803 at Coburg Charles, Prince of Leiningen (1763–1814)(Her first marriage and his second) whose first wife, Henrietta of Reuss-Ebersdorf, was her aunt. 
Charles and Victoria had two children. When Charles died she married The Prince Edward, Duke of Kent and Strathearn..And their daughter Victoria was born in Kensington Palace, London on 24th May 1819.. So our Queen had half siblings who were Leiningen family.
There are various links to follow up on the internet tracing Leiningen families from Hungary and other Country's in Europe like this one below  =
House of Leiningen

1881..Frustratingly I cannot find any of the surviving family in this census.
1882..Death of Alberta Ceilleur (Albertine) age 23 in July Q Camberwell, London

This is the last record I can find of any of the family, I have trawled the different sites looking through the 1881/91/1901/11 Census records, also marriage, death records and others, but cannot find any of them at all, but to be honest as I have said there are so many ways their name could be written down it is almost an impossible task...
They may have travelled to Canada, America, New Zealand, Australia..there are possibilities on passenger lists...
I think I just have to accept that he and his family shall remain a mystery............
If anyone does find,or know of any more info on the family I would love to hear from you...

Till Next time then.................................................

Wednesday, 5 November 2014

'Put Off Town' & 'Gossip Town'

I have been trying to find out any information about Rev I.J.Bartlett since my last post about his poem 'The Town of Don't You Worry' but have found absolutely nothing !!
But in my research, I have come across these two similarly written poems that I thought you might like to read....


Did you ever go to Put Off town,
Where the houses are old and tumbledown,
And everything tarries and everything drags,
With dirty streets and people in rags?

On the street of Slow, lives Old Man Wait,
And his two little boys named Linger and Late,
With unclean hands and tousled hair,
And a naughty little sister named I Don t Care.

Grandmother Growl lives in this town,
With her two little daughters called Fret and Frown,
And Old Man Lazy lives all alone,
Around the corner on Street Postpone.

Did you ever go to Put Off town
To play with the little girls, Fret and Frown,
Or to the home of Old Man Wait,
And whistle for his boys to come to the gate?

To play all day in Tarry Street,
Leaving your errands for other feet ?
To stop or shirk, or linger, or frown,
Is the nearest way to this old town.

Author Unknown..............


Have you ever heard of Gossip Town
On the shores of falsehood Bay,
Where old Dame Rumour with rustling gown
Is going the livelong day?

It isn't far to Gossip Town,
For people who want to go.
The Idleness Train will take you down
In just an hour or so.

The Thoughtless Road is a popular route,
And most folks start that way,
But it's steep down grade;
If you don't watch out,
You'll land in Falsehood Bay.

You glide through the valley of Vicious Town
And into the tunnel of Hate;
Then crossing the Add To Bridge, you walk
Right into the city gate.

The principal street is called, "They Say,"
"I've Heard" is the public well,
and the breezes that blow from Falsehood Bay,
are laden with, "Don't You Tell."

In the midst of the town is Tell Tale Park.
You're never quite safe while there,
For its owner is Madame Suspicious Remark,
Who lives on the street, Don't Care.

Just back of the park is Slanders Row.
'Twas there that Good Name died
pierced by a dart from Jealousy's bow,
in the hands of Envious Pride.

From Gossip Town, peace long since fled,
But envy, and strife and woe
And sorrow and care, you find instead,
If ever you chance to go.

 Author Unknown
Till next time then............

Tuesday, 21 October 2014

Rev I.J.Bartlett.The Town of Don't You Worry.

I bought a lovely very old poetry book , unusual for me, at a Car Boot a couple weeks ago, and inside was a piece of paper folded, with this wonderful American poem pencilled in full and looks like a signature Rev I J Bartlett..prob not original, but you never know :)
 I wondered does anyone have any idea who Rev I.J.Bartlett was or anything about him, I have been trying to research, but have drawn a blank..
Except for this poem being published in the Madison County Leader & Observer on Thursday November 23 1916 and in The Newark Union Gazette on Saturday March 31st 1917. 
In both it states the copy was taken from The Christian Herald by Rev I J Bartlett (who I assume is American)  .......Can anyone help ???

The Town of Don't-You-Worry

There's a town called Don't-You-Worry,
On the banks of River Smile;
Where the Cheer up and be Happy
Blossom sweetly all the while.
Where the never Grumble flower
Blooms beside the fragrant Try,
And the Ne'er-give up and Patience 
Point their faces to the sky.

In the valley of Contentment,
In the province of I Will,
You will find this lovely city,
At the foot of no Fret Hill.
There are thoroughfares delightful
In this very charming town,
And on every hand are shade trees
Named the Very Seldom Frown.

Rustic benches quite enticing
You'll find scattered here and there,
And to each a vine is clinging
Called the Frequent-Earnest Prayer.
Everybody there is happy,
And is singing all the while,
In the town of Don't-You-Worry,
On the banks of River Smile.

Rev I.J.Bartlett 

Monday, 8 September 2014

Giant Fleamarket & Dorothy Gertrude Chalmers Old Photo

We are off on our travels for a couple of weeks, along eastwards to Sussex and Kent this time, and looks like the weather will be quite nice, for the coming week at least.
Before we go off I thought I would share with you one of the Cabinet Card old photos that were in my finds from the Giant Fleamarket at the Bath & West Showground on the 31st August.
In case you didn't see the photos on Twitter of the treasures I found, here they are again..

It was an amazing place to go for me, just so many treasures I couldn't help myself, lucky I had my OH to do some brilliant haggling for me !!
There were lots & lots stalls outside and the hall inside was full too...kept us busy all day seeing it all.
This was just one avenue of stuff for sale !!
If you love Vintage anything, do go to one of these Giant Fleamarkets, they are a cross between a Car Boot sale and an Antique fair..and all the dealers and people selling that we met were happy to haggle...

One of the Cabinet cards I got had a name and date on the back ! 

I have managed to find a bit of family history out about Dorothy.
She was born on February 26th 1891 in Lancashire. Christened on the 23 April 1891.

Her mother was Gertrude Katherine Chalmers (Hall) b1861 Liverpool - d1921
and her father was David Lockhart Chalmers b1861 Liverpool - d1908 He was a Chartered Accountant.
They lived in Blundell Sands, an area on the coast just north of main Liverpool.
In the 1891 census Dorothy was 1 month old, living with parents and a visitor Elizabeth Hall (Mum's family name) a spinster, age 55 years old.
In 1901 at their home in Blundell Sands, Elizabeth Hall is described as an Aunt, and staying with young Dorothy now 10 and her younger brother Frederick age 4 (b 8th August 1896) ...Haven't managed to find the parents yet, but I am assuming they were away for husbands business maybe ? They had plenty of help at the house ! 
1901 census
I have found Dorothy's fathers death in 1908.

 In the 1911 census Dorothy's Mum Gertrude (a widow)  is living with Elizabeth Hall, now aged 75 and Dorothy aged 20 and her brother Frederick now aged 14. They are all living 69 Leyland Road, Southport.
The ladies are of 'private means'
I have found a marriage for Dorothy in 1919 in Ormskirk, Lancashire to a George Edward Harlow b1888 Kent.
They may have had one daughter Gertrude E.J.Harlow born in the last quarter of 1920 in Kent (his home area) I cannot be sure of this but it looks the closest to a match that I can find, as also she has the name Gertrude.
I have also found a possible death for Dorothy Gertrude Harlow in Lincolnshire in 1955....
but again as I do not ever send for certificates for my research for old photos, I cannot be totally sure.
Dorothy's Mum Gertrude died on 20th February 1921, and from this we learn that her son Frederick had followed in his fathers footsteps and become an accountant.

Frederick Lockhart Chalmers died at the beginning of 1988.

Till next time then...............

Thursday, 14 August 2014

The Elder Family, Robert William and Florence

We were up at 5.30 am Tuesday morning to go off to a Car Boot, its usually a good one and during this summer I have managed to find quite a few wonderful old photos from there. 
This Tuesday was no exception, I had a couple of amazing finds and this Old Photo was one, as soon as I saw it I loved it, exquisite...the gorgeous girls all looking at the Photographer...all dressed in beautiful clothes too.... its quite large, 10 x 13 inches, it wouldn't fit in my scanner, so I used camera. 
If you look carefully you will see why I was so excited about left in pencil 'Elder' and in the left side margin 'Winnie, Phylis & Rosemary' and on the right 'Flo'.
 I was whoop whooping all the way home !! ha ha....
Couldn't wait to look for them and I did find them almost immediately, and have found out lots great info about the family Elder.
Pic Taken end 1904-beg of 1905,maybe Xmas
Robert William Elder 1869-1936 was the son of Charles Elder 1837-1918 (born Bristol)  and his wife Harriet Doughty Springall 1832-1873 (born Norfolk) They had Charles, Lydia, Robert and James, when Harriet died (maybe after James birth) Charles remarried in the same year on the 21st December 1873 a Mary Morris, spinster, and they had one son Frederick.
In the 1891 census Robert William was a Solicitors clerk, but by the time he married Florence Jarvis (Flo) on 7th January 1899 he was a Solicitor.
Robert William & Florence marriage
 Florence Jarvis 1872-1955 was the daughter of John Jarvis 1837-1908? (born Sutton on Trent)(a Tobacconist)and his wife Catherine Eliza Graves 1836-1897 (born Westminster) Florence was the youngest of 6 children. 
In the 1891 census Florence was a servant, Chambermaid to a family in Woolwich. 
So when she married Robert William her life was certainly on the up !
1911 Elder family doing well with servants
Their first daughter Phyllis Florence was born on 15 August 1900, then a second daughter Winifred Mary born 28 August 1901, and then their last daughter Rosemary born 3 March 1904, the baby in the picture..
Looking at her age I do wonder if maybe the photo might have been a present for Daddy for Christmas of his girls....1904.
Rosemary went on to marry Walter S Calkin in October Q 1925 in Marylebone, London. I have found several possible birth for the couple but nothing conclusive...Rosemary died in January 1985 in Worthing, West Sussex.
Winifred Mary married Eric Davenport in October Q 1929 in Marylebone, Middlesex. I have found one possible birth for the couple, a boy John born in 1931, but I can't be sure.
Winifred Mary died on 14 March 1985 in Surrey. Her death was announced in the Times on 20 March 1985... 'Davenport.On March 14th at Woking.Winifred Mary,widow of Eric.' Very short and to the point ! 
Phyllis Florence the eldest of the three lovely girls is something of a mystery,  I have spent a few hours trying to find out what happened to her to no avail !
Phyllis went over to Gibraltar in 1921 and returned..Holiday maybe.
Then in 1927 she went with Elder family members and others to Montreal, Canada.
There is another record of a Phyllis Elder going to Canada in 1936, but I'm not sure its her.
 I have found no conclusive marriage record (poss one in 1922) or death record for her at I think she will just remain a mystery.
Robert William when he died in 1936 left £123,298 10s 11d .....a lot of money in those days, equivalent to almost 8 Million pounds in today's money !!
When Florence passed away in 1955 she had £12,898 1s left, equivalent to about £309,000 in today's money.

Incredible what you can find out about a family, just from a few scribbled names !
I also got another wonderful Victorian Album on Tuesday, with over 60 Old Photos in, but that will be more research and scanning to come.

Till next time then...................................

Sunday, 10 August 2014

St Columb Major Parish Church and Town, Cornwall.

St Columb Major is a town that we had a nice wander around when we toured Cornwall recently. 
Was lovely as it was a Sunday afternoon, so nice and quiet. 
There are some lovely buildings and interesting places to see in the town.
Barclays Bank Building

This looks so inviting !!
 Probably just as well this Antique shop was closed, as I could see he had quite a few old photos inside, so we probably saved a few pennies !!
The highlight of the town though for us, was the Grade 1 14th century (14th century origin, with additions of 15th century and restoration of mid - late 19th century) Parish Church, dedicated to St Columba, a local saint.
The tower is fifteenth century, and unusually built with a passage beneath, wide enough for carts, it was a right of way to parishioners to the college founded by Sir John Arundel in 1427..... as the Church did not own the land on three sides of the tower until 1820.
The tower is 80 feet (24 m) high and contains eight bells re-hung in 1950.
In 1920 the chiming clock was added as a memorial to the men of St. Columb who died in WW1, the Great War.
St Columb Major Parish Church

War Memorial, St Column Major
 Below is the unusually decorated Font, the Screen by George Fellows Prynne, ceiling picture and early 20th century pulpit.

19th century carved Font

Screen by George Fellowes Prynne

Ceiling detail

Pulpit early 20th C

Below are just a couple of examples of my very favourite part of the Church...the wonderful bench/pew ends. 
They are magnificent, so beautifully carved, it seems from what I have found out that they are dating back as far as 1510, there are 38 still in the Church. 
I have taken more pictures of these, as they are all so different,  and plus other photos of the Church, all on my Pinterest board here....  St Columb Major Parish Church
They are all decorated beautiful ! 


  The Church is normally open to visitors during daylight hours and is well worth a visit.
Saint Columba's Cross in the churchyard

Inside the passage of the Tower

Churchyard of St Columb Major church

Till next time then .....................................

Wednesday, 30 July 2014

The Trist Family, Veryan and the Five Round Houses

We went off touring for a while down to Cornwall at the beginning of this month, and finally got to stay at the Camping and Caravan Club site at Veryan, what a brilliant site !
Not only that, but the village of Veryan is so beautiful and has lots of really interesting history, and many listed buildings of interest.
We have saved the St Symphorian Church, Veryan  to investigate further the next time we visit.......
St Symphorian Church, Veryan
 In the village of Veryan are five very distinctive Round Houses,all listed, here are four of the five.

All the houses were built in about 1820 by Hugh Rowe, a Lostwithiel builder, for the Reverend Jeremiah Trist, reputed to be one for each of his 5 daughters. 
But it seems they were lived in by his tenants or labourers of the village, there are several theories as to why they were round, one is that it is said to deter the activities of the Devil !  But it seems more likely to be for practical reasons and that it was just economical to build that way and to heat etc. Although they each have a cross on the roof.
The Trist Family
Reverend Jeremiah Trist succeeded his father John Trist in 1783 as the local vicar, John had installed two bells in the church and had planted many trees in his lifetime on the 600 acres the family owned at Veryan.
Portrait of John Trist

 Jeremiah himself made an indelible mark on the church and its parish, establishing the first boys and girls schools 1814 and 1821, building the five roundhouses, and embellishing the church with the present tower clock (1800), placing two stone tablets of texts in the porch (1803) and removing the old singing gallery from the west end (1809). 
He also built his own house Parc Behan as his vicarage.
Picture Copyright Mr George Egan on Images of England
 Then he in turn was succeeded by his son Samuel Peter John Trist  in 1830.
Jeremiah Trist was born on 30 September 1755, son of John and Jane, he died 23 September 1829.
He married Elizabeth Charlotte Fincher on 13 May 1783 in Veryan. She was born 22 May 1762 and died 22 July 1849 at Parc Behan, Green Lane, Veryan. The Vicarage now a house that Jeremiah had built in about 1802-10.
They had 5 daughters and 2 sons.
1) Charlotte Fincher b early 1784, m John Gwatkin in 1814, had 4 children, all b in India. She d 14 November 1869, buried in Veryan.
2) Harriet Ann b late 1785, m Richard Budd in 1813, had 2 children, and d October 1871 Bath, Somerset.
3) Caroline b early 1787, seems never married, 1851 census she was a visitor to a curate and his wife in Somerset and listed as 'Annuitant'. Found possible death 1864 in Somerset.
4) Thomas b summer 1788, m Frances Grose, they had 2 sons and 1 daughter. And it looks like he lived in India from about 1807 to 1822 and was an officer in the Bengal Native Infantry, he died 4 April 1832.
In looking for information about Thomas I came across this great page from a reference book, Burke's,  about the Trist family....See below!
  It shows that Jeremiahs wife Elizabeth was the daughter of the Vicar of Veryan, Rev Richard Fincher before brilliant...they certainly kept it in the family! Also that Thomas (Eldest Son) was a 15th direct descendant from King Edward 111.

5) Samuel Peter John b late 1790, was christened on Christmas day 1790. He went to Oxford College Oriel at age 17 just like his father (Jeremiah also went to Oxford College but Lincoln).   
No marriage found.  He was Vicar of Veryan for 40 years
 Samuel (the builder of Trist House and garden, a very grand new Vicarage) 
Trist House
rescued a large quantity of medieval carved stonework from the derelict chapel of St Nun at Grampound. It is likely that some of the early features in the parish church came from this source and were added during the major rebuilding of the church undertaken by Samuel between 1847 and 1850.Samuel d 8 June 1869.
6)Louisa Jane b 1795 and d May 1809 aged 14 years.
7)Maria Elizabeth b early 1790 d early 1818 aged 28 years.
I don't know the reason these two sisters died so young.
They are both buried in the family vault at Veryan.
The Trist family have a Tomb vault, it is thought built by Jeremiah in about 1800, close to the tower of St Symphorian, Veryan. Several members of the family are buried there.
Trist family Mausoleum....... RESURGEMUS'   ‘Sown in Corruption, raised in Incorruption’
More information on the Memorial Inscriptions at Veryan, follow link below......
Cornwall OPC MIs

The village of VERYAN, more information about its buildings of note, follow link below......
Listed Buildings in VERYAN

Till next time then ...............